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Philmont High Adventure

October 04, 2018

Philmont 2019

Currently the NCAC has access to space for at least 8 crews of 12 for Philmont during the summer of 2019.  We have added the possibility of a Super Economy (sleeping on the floor) trip to reduce the cost  to a minimum.  The basic information on the trips is laid out below and in the attached unit application.   Note the response date is October 15 after which we will be returning the unfilled slots to Philmont.

Our mission is to assist scouts and scouters to experience high adventure.  This is our opportunity to help some crews who missed their opportunity in 2018 to fulfil it in 2019.

Detailed Trip Information

If your NCAC-registered Unit is interested in reserving space for one complete crew to attend Philmont Scout Ranch in the Summer of 2019, fill in and drop off or email a NCAC Philmont Unit Application to highadventure@ncacbsa.org.

NCAC Unit-Crew contingent spaces will be awarded by blind lottery drawing from among all requests received by October 15, 2018, and the results will be emailed to the Units with the number of spaces awarded.

  • Units may request more than one crew; however, 2nd and subsequent crews will be awarded after all lottery participants have received spaces, and only in the case of a trip not being filled.
    • Any applications received outside the stated dates will be placed on a crew or the waiting list on a first come first serve basis.

 

  • NCAC Unit-Crews will meet and travel AS A GROUP to and from Washington, D.C. area, all travel by air flight and chartered coach.
  • THERE WILL BE NO POSSIBILITY for Unit-Crews or individuals to travel independently. ALL arrangements will be made by NCAC.
  • Crews joining the NCAC Unit-Crew Contingent meet at the designated departure airport in order to travel as a Contingent group.

 

For 2019 the NCAC is planning to offer standard and economy trips to Philmont.  Please see attached explanation of the amenities offered for standard and economy trips.   The available trip dates are:

BASE Expedition
Depart WDC Base Arrival Return Home
PHILMONT P624 June 22/23 (Sat/Sun) June 24 (Mon) July 06 (Sat)
PHILMONT P708 July 06/07 (Sat/Sun) July 08 (Mon) July 20 (Sat)
PHILMONT P715 July 13/14 (Sat/Sun) July 15 (Mon) July 27 (Sat)

 

PHILMONT: estimated cost of $2450 (Standard – 15 day trip), $2150 (Economy – 14 day trip) or $1950 (Super Economy- Sleeping on the floor) per person. Each crew has space for ten (10) scouts, plus two (2) adult Advisors.

PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENTS AND RULES FOR NCAC UNIT-CREW PHILMONT CONTINGENTS:

  • Youth must be registered in BSA and be age 14 by the date of arrival or completed 8th grade and 13 by date of participation. One adviser must be at least 21 years of age; the second adviser must be at least 18 by arrival at Philmont and registered in BSA.
  • Crew size must be between 7-12 participants (including adult advisors).
  • Each crew must have two adult advisors, provided by the Unit, and may have a maximum of four, except that each Unit-Crew must have more youth participants than adults.
  • Names of individual participants need not be provided until November 1, 2018.
  • No monies are due at time of email request. However, each participant is responsible for the full cost once they join the crew (by submitting their individual information).
  • The estimated cost is $2450 (15 day trip), $2150 (14 day trip) or $1950 (sleeping on the floor) per person; the final budget amount will be set in the spring of 2019.
  • A non-refundable deposit of $700 per person  (payment #1) will be required on November 1, 2018, along with a confirmation of the number of spaces reserved and names of participants.
  • Each participant will be expected to adhere to the NCAC payment schedule in order to retain their reserved space, and to comply with the NCAC Code of Conduct.
  • Furthermore, all Advisors will be expected to participate in *ALL* of the NCAC training sessions & successfully complete the advisor hike.

 

The NCAC High Adventure Committee is offering two levels of service for the Council contingent trips in the 2019 season.  NCAC expeditions will be offered as either a Standard trip (estimated cost $2450/person),  an Economy trip (estimated $2150/person) or Super Economy (estimated $1950/person) based on demand.  When a unit submits their information to the lottery on the 2019 NCAC UNIT APPLICATION PHILMONT Contingent Trip, please indicate preferred DATES (in 1st, 2nd, 3rd order) and check the box for Standard, Economy or Super Economy as desired. Units will be offered expedition space based on lottery position, requested date & cost preference.  The entire contingent (4 or 5 crews) must be the same selected level of service (Standard or Economy) to allow for ground transportation, meals, lodging, etc.  If the vast majority of crews (16 out of 18) select one option, it will be the only option offered for the year.

All submissions will be considered Standard unless the Economy selection is checked

Standard Trip Option

  • 15 Day excursion
  • Three (3) days to acclimate to altitude before hitting trail
  • Airfare from a local airport to western gateway city (Denver or Albuquerque)
  • Luxury bus transportation to and from Philmont
  • Philmont Ranch Fee
  • Two nights’ accommodations en route to Philmont (hotel or suite-style dorm)
  • All meals from lunch on departure day through lunch on return day
  • A professional tour guide to provide commentary and bring local history to life
  • Guided tour of the United States Air Force Academy or National Atomic museum
  • Time to explore Garden of the Gods or historic Old Town Albuquerque and Santa Fe
  • Experience a performance by a Native American dance team
  • Scenic rail tour on Pikes Peak Cog Railway or tram ride up Sandia Peak
  • Whitewater rafting (Class III-IV)

 

Economy Trip Option

  • 14 Day excursion
  • Airfare from a local airport to western gateway city (Denver or Albuquerque)
  • Luxury bus transportation to and from Philmont
  • Philmont Ranch Fee
  • One night accommodations en route to Philmont (hotel or suite-style dorm)
  • All meals from lunch on departure day through lunch on return day

 

Super Economy

  • 14 Day excursion
  • Airfare from a local airport to western gateway city (Denver or Albuquerque)
  • Bus transportation to and from Philmont
  • Philmont Ranch Fee
  • One night accommodations en route to Philmont (in sleeping bags on the floor of Kiva)
  • Fast food meals from lunch on departure day through lunch on return day

Ready to Sign-Up?

For more information and a copy of the unit-crew application, see https://www.ncacbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/2019-Philmont-Unit-based-application-super-economy-final.pdf.  Unit-crew slots are still available.

NCAC is also accepting provisional youth and adult advisor applications for these contingents.  These applications are available at https://www.ncacbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/HAC_2019_philmont_provo_application.pdf and https://www.ncacbsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/HAC_2019_Provo_Advisor_2Feb2018_fields.pdf.

Still Need More Information?

For more information, see https://www.ncacbsa.org/blog/2018/09/18/still-looking-for-a-philmont-2019-trek/ or contact Virginia Ward at vward@masonlive.gmu.edu or 571-643-2426.