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Non-Scouter wants session? No problem! Here're the forms.

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Tuesday, May 05, 2015

Suppose a non-Scouter wants to participate in a COPE session. Standards require at least a "hold harmless" agreement, aka an "activity consent form". These forms are found on Look for "Activity Consent Form and Approval by Parents or Legal Guardian"

By the way, if you see any logical reason for arranging the documents in this order, please leave a comment.

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University of Scouting coming. COPE to be there!

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Sunday, February 08, 2015

University of Scouting is coming. I'd like to get thoughts on the proposed presentation.

Please click here to download.

Send comments to

And please let me know if you would like to assist me.


Tags:  COPE  Education  Promotion  University of Scouting 

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Catching up with good ideas

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Sunday, August 24, 2014
Got an e-mail from the Colonial District training chairman regarding a posting by Mike Meenehan. Mike had posted a "last opportunity to get training" and the re-posting was a strong outreach to the CD scout leaders and to all the CD committees.  A real wake-up call. Once again, Mike is showing how a Council program organizer should do their job! I've been neglecting an easy "lift" to communicate the message about Climbing and COPE. Tell the District Training Chairs!
But how to get in the flow?
Found an e-mail dated 2013-09-18 from Dan Kurtenbach about Yahoo! groups, particularly Train82.
Another case where I'd not used the good stuff provided by the folks doing the heavy lifting for Council.
Thanks, Dan!

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Changes to pages (needed!)

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Sunday, August 24, 2014
Need the following changes made to the site:
1. Name change. James M. has volunteered to lead development of a Climbing program
a. Site name must change to reflect the new offering; need name changed from "COPE" to "Climbing / COPE".
b. James M. should be allowed permission to update the site.

2. Communication. There are separate e-mails for discussing Climbing and for discussing COPE:
a. Climbing:
b. COPE:

3. Event registration. If there are only two types of calendars to which to publish events (Council and Committee), the following events need to be published accordingly: 




COPE course / climbing tower post-season inspection; support Family Weekend

8/30/2014 – 8/31/2014


COPE Level 1 Instructor training



COPE Field Day



COPE Session



COPE Session



Committee meeting



COPE Session



COPE Field Day



COPE Session



Committee meeting



a. Sessions (9/27, 10/4, 10/18, 11/1) require two registration pages, one for staff (viewable only to staff) and a second for the unit. Ideally, all staff could view the unit registration. At least the director for the session should be able to view all registrations.
b. Training sessions (9/12-9/14) require two registration pages, one for staff (viewable only to staff) and a second for each student. Ideally, all staff could view the student registration. At least the lead instructor (staff) should be able to view all registrations.
c. Committee events (meetings and field days; 9/20, 10/25, 11/2) require a single registration page (for staff). All can view the description of the event, but only staff can view the registration.

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Changes to COPE pages

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Friday, December 06, 2013

Attended the Webmaster training session on 2013-12-07.

  1. Upcoming events. Includes Council-wide events, not COPE events, which visitors to the COPE pages would expect to find. Can a filter be included?
  2. Blog. Moved to left (wider) side of page. Right side was too narrow. Blogs (IMHO) are for concise statements.
  3. Event signup. Need sign up for multiple types of events:
    1. Facilitation sessions. Maximum of 30 students per session (need the Committee to define a minimum per group). Typically one full day comprised of two half-day sessions. Requires non-refundable deposit for the group. Balance is due at start of session. Two staff required per group. Maximum of two adults allowed as observers. [Group committment, non-refundable down payment.]
    2. Instructor sessions. Minimum of 6 students, maximum of 20 students. Requires minimum of 3 fully qualified staff, prefer 5-7. Session is from Friday 1700 hrs to Sunday 1500 hrs. Following training, students must help facilitate at least two (2) sessions while being monitored by senior staff. [Individual committment, fee.]
    3. Committee sessions. Quarterly. Purpose is to review and approve the operation of COPE in NCAC. Attendance limited to committee members or COPE advocates interested in supporting the program. [Individual committment, no fee.]
    4. Field days. Limited to COPE-qualified individuals. Purpose of sessions is to maintain the course facilities or the competence of the individuals, both low element and high element. [Individual committment, no fee.]
  4. Forum. Maybe?
  5. Layout. Alternative? Can anyone suggest a page that has a more appropriate layout?

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Safety Break

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Saturday, September 21, 2013

Please go to the 2:23 point of the video on abseiling (aka rappelling); Notice how the climber uses a prussik as a protection; the break hand MUST be on the prussik or break is automatically applied.

I think the Committee should adopt the use of a break knot in the event the belayer slips, gets tripped, or otherwise has issues.

In other words, let the Powder Horn incident be the first and the LAST!

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Break-Under-Slide Belay Technique

Posted By Anthony Waisanen, Saturday, September 21, 2013
Currently, our lesson on Life Safety Systems (CCF1-9) includes a discussion of three belay techniques:
  • Break Under Slide (BUS) (NOT Pull-Break-Under-Slide, PBUS, because "P" allows a hand on the rope to the climber, not on the break side)
  • Chop
  • Slip-slap-slide 

Why more than one?

Not a good idea.We should discuss, teach, practice one!

Why BUS?

  1. The BUS belay method has been adopted by the American Mountain Guide Association, Most climbing gyms and Most Recrecational programs as the safest belay technique.
  2. It is described in the current BSA Merit Badge booklet and the BSA Topping Out climbing program guide.
  3. The BUS method is seen as the most reliable because the rope is locked in the BRAKE position in the belay device while your hands are repositioned on the rope to take more slack.

Take a look at these online resources and practice the technique to use and to teach:

-Climbing Magazine web site:

-Video from Aiderondack Community College: (but do not take non-dominant hand off the break-side of the rope)

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